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The goal of the work is to have people within the African-American community talk to each other and understand their perspectives and hopefully to break down some of these myths and fallacies that we've accepted. So what I'm hoping is that people will see those works and start to have a conversation with each other.

Artist Steven M. Cozart

About this Podcast

This episode of the Nasher Museum Podcast features artist Steven M. Cozart, who lives in Greensboro, N.C., and whose works on paper are part of Reckoning and Resilience: North Carolina Art Now. He is in conversation with Trina Jones, the Jerome N. Culp Distinguished Professor of Law at Duke Law School. More episodes will be added  throughout the exhibition, on view through July 10, 2022.

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About Steven and Trina

Steven M. Cozart was born and raised in Durham, North Carolina, and now works and lives in Greensboro, NC. Cozart received his Bachelors of Fine Arts degree in Art Education with a concentration in printmaking and drawing from East Carolina University.

His work has been exhibited at the Greensville Museum of Arts, Center for Visual Arts in Greensboro, Green Hill Center for North Carolina Art, The African American Atelier, and the Randolph Artist Guild, and he has received grants and awards from the Central Piedmont Regional Artists Hub,  The Fine Artist League of Cary, and was the recipient of the Dorthea Lange-Paul Taylor Prize from the Center of Documentary studies at Duke University. He teaches at Weaver Academy for Performing & Visual Arts and Advanced Technology in Guilford  County and has been a visiting lecturer at ECU, North Carolina A&T State University, and Guildford College.

Trina Jones is a leading expert on racial, socio-economic and gender inequality, particularly as it pertains to the workplace. She has lectured on colorism, intersectionality, and sexual harassment in North America, Africa, Asia, the Caribbean, Europe and South America.

At Duke Law, Professor Jones directs the Center on Race, Law and Policy and teaches Race and the Law, Critical Race Theory, Employment Discrimination, Law and Literature: Race and Gender, and Civil Procedure. In 2019, she received the Law School’s Distinguished Teaching Award and the Gavel Award from the Duke Law Black Law Students’ Association. Professor Jones’ scholarship has appeared in leading law reviews, including the Columbia Law Review, the Duke Law Journal, the Emory Law Journal, the Georgetown Law Journal, Law & Contemporary Problems, the NYU Review of Law and Social Change, and the Stanford Journal of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, among others.

Transcript from Podcast

Trina Jones
Good afternoon, I’m Trina Jones. I’m the Jerome N. Culp Distinguished Professor of Law at Duke Law School, where I study racial inequality and other forms of inequality.

Steven M. Cozart
Hi, I’m Steve Cozart. I am a public school educator and also practicing artist, who has, in the last several years, begun to focus more on issues within the African-American community related to race and identity.

Stephen, I’m so happy to continue a conversation that we began yesterday when we had the opportunity to walk through the “Reckoning and Resilience: North Carolina Art Now” exhibit at the Nasher Museum of Art. And so, as a lover of art but one who is not an artist, I’m always intrigued by what inspires an artist and what an artist, if anything, is seeking to say to viewers. So my questions today will be along those lines. Is that okay with you?

Yes, ma’am.

Okay, so my first question is how do you describe yourself to the world?


Great art often inspires, and we hope that that's what will happen as people look at the exhibit. Not only in terms of inspiring reflection on this moment and how we move beyond this moment, but reflection about what we may individually accomplish.

Trina Jones, Duke Law School Professor
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